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  • Bane7670
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    18:44, March 17, 2018

    Zeb and Agent Kallus find themselves stranded on an ice planet after a failed Imperial ambush of the rebels. With Kallus injured from the escape pod crash, he and Zeb must work together to survive the harsh conditions.


    What did everyone think of the sixteenth episode of the second season of Star Wars Rebels?

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    • I really liked this episode - It showed more of Lasat culture and that Kallus is not without honor

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    • This episode was surprisingly emotional and gives one alot to think about.

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    • Yeah.

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    • I just hope Agent Kullus doesn't betray The Empire

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    • Wow very emotional just hope to see what happens next.

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    • I don't think the Empire actually killed all the Geonosians - I think they slaved out the entire planet's population to work in whatever other planet or asteroid field they're building the Death Star. Tying way back to episode 1.2, when the Empire was acquiring Kyber crystals, and Hidalgo hinted it was for the Death Star superlaser.

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    • No, I dont' think it. In one of the recent canon comics "Dart Vader 4", the Sith Lord went on a lone mission of Geonosis a certain time after Yavin. There, is stated that the entire planet was "sterilized" by bombs and laser by the Empire, whiping out all the Geonosians.

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    • I love this episode.

      Subtle Death Star references. Kallus showing his emotional and vulnerable side (after Zeb did in a previous episode). Kallus showing DOUBTS about the Empire!

      Who could have known that ol' Agent man would be such a sympathetic villain :)

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    • I know right it was VERY surprising.

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    • My loving enemy. Good episode. Awesome.

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    • I can't believe it. Ol' Agent Muttonchops is, from what I can tell, beginning to be sympathetic to the rebellion. Ironic, when you consider that his ISB job is basically to sniff out agents of the Empire that are thinking the same things he is. You got to hand it to the writers, every now again they throw in a complete twist like this. I never saw this coming. I love this episode, 9/10. :)

      Please tell me I wasn't the only one that heard Kallus mention Onderon and Saw Gerrera. :) Totally awesome! Guess he carried on Steela's work after the Empire took over. Wonder if Bail and Mon Mothma aren't the only rebellious senators, then? Wouldn't put it past Lux to join the rebellion after everything that happened during the Clone Wars...

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      • Kallus: "We are all fragile, Garazeb."
      • Zeb: "Life is a meaningless abyss, Kallus."
      • Kallus: "We are born to suffer."
      • Zeb: "Despair is the only certainty in our existence."

      Jokes aside, a reconciliation between mortal enemies is a great plot twist. Zeb will never forget the past... but he won't live in it either. Kallus won't stop chasing the rebels... but he won't be so fanatical anymore.

      Both characters grew up a little. This reminds me a little of Londo and G'Kar from Babylon 5 - another pair of mortal enemies who became (almost) best friends by the end of the show.

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    • And most important, now Kallus will start to ask himself some question. And he couldn't like the answer.

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    • Agent Kallus learned a difficult lesson about authoritarian rule, complete indifference towards those  serving the empire viewing them merely as expendable cogs.  Agent Kallus also showed a complete lack of understanding about loyalty and frienship.  He truely believed the rebels would abandon Zeb to whatever fate awaited him on that moon. What he witnessed countradcited a learned behavior and showed him that honor and friendship do have meaning and a place in ones beliefs. 

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    • It's like Maarek Stele's story - at first he is so convinced that the Empire is this great force of positive change and the Rebels are just a bunch of vile renegades who oppose this change... but as time goes on, he finds himself growing more and more disillusioned.

      Did you notice how cold Admiral Constantine was? Not even a simple "Hey, how's your leg? Glad you made it out of there alive." All Kallus could do was go back to his austere grey cabin and enjoy his pain in solitude.

      Speaking of leg, I know exactly how Kallus feels - when I was a kid, I sprained my ankle so bad that I couldn't walk for two weeks.

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    • I dunno about bad sprains, but I know quite a bit about breaking bones. I completely split the two middle bones in my right hand one summer. On the bright side, I can tell when there's going to be a storm. Anyway, that hurt something awful, I feel Kallus' pain... well, to a lesser degree, I guess, since I didn't have to walk on my hand. Jeez, I actually feel kind of bad for him. This episode really threw me for a loop, the writers did a good job of adding a new dimension to Kallus' character.

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    • Heh, I was a very wild kid, always bruised and bleeding, but somehow I managed to never break a single bone. I guess I was lucky.

      Or I'm a latent jedi :D

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    • I was like that too, mostly because the kids I always hung out with were my brother's Boy Scout troop and his baseball team, which is now my baseball team. Then again, I was more klutz-y then wild. Yeah, if I'm a latent Jedi, I'm more Zayne Carrick then Obi-Wan Kenobi. Which is totally fine by me, since I love the KoTOR comics. :)

      I keep thinking of that line from the episode. "Karabast, Karabast, what does that even mean?!" Kallus asked a good question. Wish they'd say what Karabast meant, anyway. Then again, I get a funny feeling that it means something that falls under the same category that the answer for what the Inquisitorius does with the kids they pick up. Nothing they can say on Disney XD...

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    • I suppose "Karabast" is the Lasat equivalent of "damn it" or the F-word ;)

      Could this count as breaking the fourth wall - in a way Kallus took the role of one of the show's viewers who are wondering about the same thing.

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    • I think Kallus will defect from the Empire, but I also believe that he will sacrifice himself. I can't see him as a Rebel, but I can see him as a traitor.

      Great Episode

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    • Rayn Turammarth wrote:
      I think Kallus will defect from the Empire, but I also believe that he will sacrifice himself. I can't see him as a Rebel, but I can see him as a traitor.

      Great Episode

      He better not betray the great Empire

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    • Who knows? Only time will tell us

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    • After such an experiece you might change your mind.

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    • It was very awesome, I knew there would be a episode describing Kallus's past.

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    • Seems so, I guess.  :))

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